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| 03-Nov-2023 |
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> |
Merge tag 'perf-tools-for-v6.7-1-2023-11-01' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools
Pull perf tools updates from Namhyung Kim: "Build:
- Compile BPF programs by defaul
Merge tag 'perf-tools-for-v6.7-1-2023-11-01' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools
Pull perf tools updates from Namhyung Kim: "Build:
- Compile BPF programs by default if clang (>= 12.0.1) is available to enable more features like kernel lock contention, off-cpu profiling, kwork, sample filtering and so on.
This can be disabled by passing BUILD_BPF_SKEL=0 to make.
- Produce better error messages for bison on debug build (make DEBUG=1) by defining YYDEBUG symbol internally.
perf record:
- Track sideband events (like FORK/MMAP) from all CPUs even if perf record targets a subset of CPUs only (using -C option). Otherwise it may lose some information happened on a CPU out of the target list.
- Fix checking raw sched_switch tracepoint argument using system BTF. This affects off-cpu profiling which attaches a BPF program to the raw tracepoint.
perf lock contention:
- Add --lock-cgroup option to see contention by cgroups. This should be used with BPF only (using -b option).
$ sudo perf lock con -ab --lock-cgroup -- sleep 1 contended total wait max wait avg wait cgroup
835 14.06 ms 41.19 us 16.83 us /system.slice/led.service 25 122.38 us 13.77 us 4.89 us / 44 23.73 us 3.87 us 539 ns /user.slice/user-657345.slice/session-c4.scope 1 491 ns 491 ns 491 ns /system.slice/connectd.service
- Add -G/--cgroup-filter option to see contention only for given cgroups.
This can be useful when you identified a cgroup in the above command and want to investigate more on it. It also works with other output options like -t/--threads and -l/--lock-addr.
$ sudo perf lock con -ab -G /user.slice/user-657345.slice/session-c4.scope -- sleep 1 contended total wait max wait avg wait type caller
8 77.11 us 17.98 us 9.64 us spinlock futex_wake+0xc8 2 24.56 us 14.66 us 12.28 us spinlock tick_do_update_jiffies64+0x25 1 4.97 us 4.97 us 4.97 us spinlock futex_q_lock+0x2a
- Use per-cpu array for better spinlock tracking. This is to improve performance of the BPF program and to avoid nested contention on a lock in the BPF hash map.
- Update callstack check for PowerPC. To find a representative caller of a lock, it needs to look up the call stacks. It ends the lookup when it sees 0 in the call stack buffer. However, PowerPC call stacks can have 0 values in the beginning so skip them when it expects valid call stacks after.
perf kwork:
- Support 'sched' class (for -k option) so that it can see task scheduling event (using sched_switch tracepoint) as well as irq and workqueue items.
- Add perf kwork top subcommand to show more accurate cpu utilization with sched class above. It works both with a recorded data (using perf kwork record command) and BPF (using -b option). Unlike perf top command, it does not support interactive mode (yet).
$ sudo perf kwork top -b -k sched Starting trace, Hit <Ctrl+C> to stop and report ^C Total : 160702.425 ms, 8 cpus %Cpu(s): 36.00% id, 0.00% hi, 0.00% si %Cpu0 [|||||||||||||||||| 61.66%] %Cpu1 [|||||||||||||||||| 61.27%] %Cpu2 [||||||||||||||||||| 66.40%] %Cpu3 [|||||||||||||||||| 61.28%] %Cpu4 [|||||||||||||||||| 61.82%] %Cpu5 [||||||||||||||||||||||| 77.41%] %Cpu6 [|||||||||||||||||| 61.73%] %Cpu7 [|||||||||||||||||| 63.25%]
PID SPID %CPU RUNTIME COMMMAND ------------------------------------------------------------- 0 0 38.72 8089.463 ms [swapper/1] 0 0 38.71 8084.547 ms [swapper/3] 0 0 38.33 8007.532 ms [swapper/0] 0 0 38.26 7992.985 ms [swapper/6] 0 0 38.17 7971.865 ms [swapper/4] 0 0 36.74 7447.765 ms [swapper/7] 0 0 33.59 6486.942 ms [swapper/2] 0 0 22.58 3771.268 ms [swapper/5] 9545 9351 2.48 447.136 ms sched-messaging 9574 9351 2.09 418.583 ms sched-messaging 9724 9351 2.05 372.407 ms sched-messaging 9531 9351 2.01 368.804 ms sched-messaging 9512 9351 2.00 362.250 ms sched-messaging 9514 9351 1.95 357.767 ms sched-messaging 9538 9351 1.86 384.476 ms sched-messaging 9712 9351 1.84 386.490 ms sched-messaging 9723 9351 1.83 380.021 ms sched-messaging 9722 9351 1.82 382.738 ms sched-messaging 9517 9351 1.81 354.794 ms sched-messaging 9559 9351 1.79 344.305 ms sched-messaging 9725 9351 1.77 365.315 ms sched-messaging <SNIP>
- Add hard/soft-irq statistics to perf kwork top. This will show the total CPU utilization with IRQ stats like below:
$ sudo perf kwork top -b -k sched,irq,softirq Starting trace, Hit <Ctrl+C> to stop and report ^C Total : 12554.889 ms, 8 cpus %Cpu(s): 96.23% id, 0.10% hi, 0.19% si <---- here %Cpu0 [| 4.60%] %Cpu1 [| 4.59%] %Cpu2 [ 2.73%] %Cpu3 [| 3.81%] <SNIP>
perf bench:
- Add -G/--cgroups option to perf bench sched pipe. The pipe bench is good to measure context switch overhead. With this option, it puts the reader and writer tasks in separate cgroups to enforce context switch between two different cgroups.
Also it needs to set CPU affinity of the tasks in a CPU to accurately measure the impact of cgroup context switches.
$ sudo perf stat -e context-switches,cgroup-switches -- \ > taskset -c 0 perf bench sched pipe -l 100000 # Running 'sched/pipe' benchmark: # Executed 100000 pipe operations between two processes
Total time: 0.307 [sec]
3.078180 usecs/op 324867 ops/sec
Performance counter stats for 'taskset -c 0 perf bench sched pipe -l 100000':
200,026 context-switches 63 cgroup-switches
0.321637922 seconds time elapsed
You can see small number of cgroup-switches because both write and read tasks are in the same cgroup.
$ sudo mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/{AAA,BBB}
$ sudo perf stat -e context-switches,cgroup-switches -- \ > taskset -c 0 perf bench sched pipe -l 100000 -G AAA,BBB # Running 'sched/pipe' benchmark: # Executed 100000 pipe operations between two processes
Total time: 0.351 [sec]
3.512990 usecs/op 284657 ops/sec
Performance counter stats for 'taskset -c 0 perf bench sched pipe -l 100000 -G AAA,BBB':
200,020 context-switches 200,019 cgroup-switches
0.365034567 seconds time elapsed
Now context-switches and cgroup-switches are almost same. And you can see the pipe operation took little more.
- Kill child processes when perf bench sched messaging exited abnormally. Otherwise it'd leave the child doing unnecessary work.
perf test:
- Fix various shellcheck issues on the tests written in shell script.
- Skip tests when condition is not satisfied: - object code reading test for non-text section addresses. - CoreSight test if cs_etm// event is not available. - lock contention test if not enough CPUs.
Event parsing:
- Make PMU alias name loading lazy to reduce the startup time in the event parsing code for perf record, stat and others in the general case.
- Lazily compute PMU default config. In the same sense, delay PMU initialization until it's really needed to reduce the startup cost.
- Fix event term values that are raw events. The event specification can have several terms including event name. But sometimes it clashes with raw event encoding which starts with 'r' and has hex-digits.
For example, an event named 'read' should be processed as a normal event but it was mis-treated as a raw encoding and caused a failure.
$ perf stat -e 'uncore_imc_free_running/event=read/' -a sleep 1 event syntax error: '..nning/event=read/' \___ parser error Run 'perf list' for a list of valid events
Usage: perf stat [<options>] [<command>]
-e, --event <event> event selector. use 'perf list' to list available events
Event metrics:
- Add "Compat" regex to match event with multiple identifiers.
- Usual updates for Intel, Power10, Arm telemetry/CMN and AmpereOne.
Misc:
- Assorted memory leak fixes and footprint reduction.
- Add "bpf_skeletons" to perf version --build-options so that users can check whether their perf tools have BPF support easily.
- Fix unaligned access in Intel-PT packet decoder found by undefined-behavior sanitizer.
- Avoid frequency mode for the dummy event. Surprisingly it'd impact kernel timer tick handler performance by force iterating all PMU events.
- Update bash shell completion for events and metrics"
* tag 'perf-tools-for-v6.7-1-2023-11-01' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools: (187 commits) perf vendor events intel: Update tsx_cycles_per_elision metrics perf vendor events intel: Update bonnell version number to v5 perf vendor events intel: Update westmereex events to v4 perf vendor events intel: Update meteorlake events to v1.06 perf vendor events intel: Update knightslanding events to v16 perf vendor events intel: Add typo fix for ivybridge FP perf vendor events intel: Update a spelling in haswell/haswellx perf vendor events intel: Update emeraldrapids to v1.01 perf vendor events intel: Update alderlake/alderlake events to v1.23 perf build: Disable BPF skeletons if clang version is < 12.0.1 perf callchain: Fix spelling mistake "statisitcs" -> "statistics" perf report: Fix spelling mistake "heirachy" -> "hierarchy" perf python: Fix binding linkage due to rename and move of evsel__increase_rlimit() perf tests: test_arm_coresight: Simplify source iteration perf vendor events intel: Add tigerlake two metrics perf vendor events intel: Add broadwellde two metrics perf vendor events intel: Fix broadwellde tma_info_system_dram_bw_use metric perf mem_info: Add and use map_symbol__exit and addr_map_symbol__exit perf callchain: Minor layout changes to callchain_list perf callchain: Make brtype_stat in callchain_list optional ...
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f085df1b |
| 07-May-2023 |
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> |
Merge tag 'perf-tools-for-v6.4-3-2023-05-06' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/acme/linux
Pull perf tool updates from Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo: "Third version of perf tool updates, w
Merge tag 'perf-tools-for-v6.4-3-2023-05-06' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/acme/linux
Pull perf tool updates from Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo: "Third version of perf tool updates, with the build problems with with using a 'vmlinux.h' generated from the main build fixed, and the bpf skeleton build disabled by default.
Build:
- Require libtraceevent to build, one can disable it using NO_LIBTRACEEVENT=1.
It is required for tools like 'perf sched', 'perf kvm', 'perf trace', etc.
libtraceevent is available in most distros so installing 'libtraceevent-devel' should be a one-time event to continue building perf as usual.
Using NO_LIBTRACEEVENT=1 produces tooling that is functional and sufficient for lots of users not interested in those libtraceevent dependent features.
- Allow Python support in 'perf script' when libtraceevent isn't linked, as not all features requires it, for instance Intel PT does not use tracepoints.
- Error if the python interpreter needed for jevents to work isn't available and NO_JEVENTS=1 isn't set, preventing a build without support for JSON vendor events, which is a rare but possible condition. The two check error messages:
$(error ERROR: No python interpreter needed for jevents generation. Install python or build with NO_JEVENTS=1.) $(error ERROR: Python interpreter needed for jevents generation too old (older than 3.6). Install a newer python or build with NO_JEVENTS=1.)
- Make libbpf 1.0 the minimum required when building with out of tree, distro provided libbpf.
- Use libsdtc++'s and LLVM's libcxx's __cxa_demangle, a portable C++ demangler, add 'perf test' entry for it.
- Make binutils libraries opt in, as distros disable building with it due to licensing, they were used for C++ demangling, for instance.
- Switch libpfm4 to opt-out rather than opt-in, if libpfm-devel (or equivalent) isn't installed, we'll just have a build warning:
Makefile.config:1144: libpfm4 not found, disables libpfm4 support. Please install libpfm4-dev
- Add a feature test for scandirat(), that is not implemented so far in musl and uclibc, disabling features that need it, such as scanning for tracepoints in /sys/kernel/tracing/events.
perf BPF filters:
- New feature where BPF can be used to filter samples, for instance:
$ sudo ./perf record -e cycles --filter 'period > 1000' true $ sudo ./perf script perf-exec 2273949 546850.708501: 5029 cycles: ffffffff826f9e25 finish_wait+0x5 ([kernel.kallsyms]) perf-exec 2273949 546850.708508: 32409 cycles: ffffffff826f9e25 finish_wait+0x5 ([kernel.kallsyms]) perf-exec 2273949 546850.708526: 143369 cycles: ffffffff82b4cdbf xas_start+0x5f ([kernel.kallsyms]) perf-exec 2273949 546850.708600: 372650 cycles: ffffffff8286b8f7 __pagevec_lru_add+0x117 ([kernel.kallsyms]) perf-exec 2273949 546850.708791: 482953 cycles: ffffffff829190de __mod_memcg_lruvec_state+0x4e ([kernel.kallsyms]) true 2273949 546850.709036: 501985 cycles: ffffffff828add7c tlb_gather_mmu+0x4c ([kernel.kallsyms]) true 2273949 546850.709292: 503065 cycles: 7f2446d97c03 _dl_map_object_deps+0x973 (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2)
- In addition to 'period' (PERF_SAMPLE_PERIOD), the other PERF_SAMPLE_ can be used for filtering, and also some other sample accessible values, from tools/perf/Documentation/perf-record.txt:
Essentially the BPF filter expression is:
<term> <operator> <value> (("," | "||") <term> <operator> <value>)*
The <term> can be one of: ip, id, tid, pid, cpu, time, addr, period, txn, weight, phys_addr, code_pgsz, data_pgsz, weight1, weight2, weight3, ins_lat, retire_lat, p_stage_cyc, mem_op, mem_lvl, mem_snoop, mem_remote, mem_lock, mem_dtlb, mem_blk, mem_hops
The <operator> can be one of: ==, !=, >, >=, <, <=, &
The <value> can be one of: <number> (for any term) na, load, store, pfetch, exec (for mem_op) l1, l2, l3, l4, cxl, io, any_cache, lfb, ram, pmem (for mem_lvl) na, none, hit, miss, hitm, fwd, peer (for mem_snoop) remote (for mem_remote) na, locked (for mem_locked) na, l1_hit, l1_miss, l2_hit, l2_miss, any_hit, any_miss, walk, fault (for mem_dtlb) na, by_data, by_addr (for mem_blk) hops0, hops1, hops2, hops3 (for mem_hops)
perf lock contention:
- Show lock type with address.
- Track and show mmap_lock, siglock and per-cpu rq_lock with address. This is done for mmap_lock by following the current->mm pointer:
$ sudo ./perf lock con -abl -- sleep 10 contended total wait max wait avg wait address symbol ... 16344 312.30 ms 2.22 ms 19.11 us ffff8cc702595640 17686 310.08 ms 1.49 ms 17.53 us ffff8cc7025952c0 3 84.14 ms 45.79 ms 28.05 ms ffff8cc78114c478 mmap_lock 3557 76.80 ms 68.75 us 21.59 us ffff8cc77ca3af58 1 68.27 ms 68.27 ms 68.27 ms ffff8cda745dfd70 9 54.53 ms 7.96 ms 6.06 ms ffff8cc7642a48b8 mmap_lock 14629 44.01 ms 60.00 us 3.01 us ffff8cc7625f9ca0 3481 42.63 ms 140.71 us 12.24 us ffffffff937906ac vmap_area_lock 16194 38.73 ms 42.15 us 2.39 us ffff8cd397cbc560 11 38.44 ms 10.39 ms 3.49 ms ffff8ccd6d12fbb8 mmap_lock 1 5.43 ms 5.43 ms 5.43 ms ffff8cd70018f0d8 1674 5.38 ms 422.93 us 3.21 us ffffffff92e06080 tasklist_lock 581 4.51 ms 130.68 us 7.75 us ffff8cc9b1259058 5 3.52 ms 1.27 ms 703.23 us ffff8cc754510070 112 3.47 ms 56.47 us 31.02 us ffff8ccee38b3120 381 3.31 ms 73.44 us 8.69 us ffffffff93790690 purge_vmap_area_lock 255 3.19 ms 36.35 us 12.49 us ffff8d053ce30c80
- Update default map size to 16384.
- Allocate single letter option -M for --map-nr-entries, as it is proving being frequently used.
- Fix struct rq lock access for older kernels with BPF's CO-RE (Compile once, run everywhere).
- Fix problems found with MSAn.
perf report/top:
- Add inline information when using --call-graph=fp or lbr, as was already done to the --call-graph=dwarf callchain mode.
- Improve the 'srcfile' sort key performance by really using an optimization introduced in 6.2 for the 'srcline' sort key that avoids calling addr2line for comparision with each sample.
perf sched:
- Make 'perf sched latency/map/replay' to use "sched:sched_waking" instead of "sched:sched_waking", consistent with 'perf record' since d566a9c2d482 ("perf sched: Prefer sched_waking event when it exists").
perf ftrace:
- Make system wide the default target for latency subcommand, run the following command then generate some network traffic and press control+C:
# perf ftrace latency -T __kfree_skb ^C DURATION | COUNT | GRAPH | 0 - 1 us | 27 | ############# | 1 - 2 us | 22 | ########### | 2 - 4 us | 8 | #### | 4 - 8 us | 5 | ## | 8 - 16 us | 24 | ############ | 16 - 32 us | 2 | # | 32 - 64 us | 1 | | 64 - 128 us | 0 | | 128 - 256 us | 0 | | 256 - 512 us | 0 | | 512 - 1024 us | 0 | | 1 - 2 ms | 0 | | 2 - 4 ms | 0 | | 4 - 8 ms | 0 | | 8 - 16 ms | 0 | | 16 - 32 ms | 0 | | 32 - 64 ms | 0 | | 64 - 128 ms | 0 | | 128 - 256 ms | 0 | | 256 - 512 ms | 0 | | 512 - 1024 ms | 0 | | 1 - ... s | 0 | | #
perf top:
- Add --branch-history (LBR: Last Branch Record) option, just like already available for 'perf record'.
- Fix segfault in thread__comm_len() where thread->comm was being used outside thread->comm_lock.
perf annotate:
- Allow configuring objdump and addr2line in ~/.perfconfig., so that you can use alternative binaries, such as llvm's.
perf kvm:
- Add TUI mode for 'perf kvm stat report'.
Reference counting:
- Add reference count checking infrastructure to check for use after free, done to the 'cpumap', 'namespaces', 'maps' and 'map' structs, more to come.
To build with it use -DREFCNT_CHECKING=1 in the make command line to build tools/perf. Documented at:
https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Reference_Count_Checking
- The above caught, for instance, fix, present in this series:
- Fix maps use after put in 'perf test "Share thread maps"':
'maps' is copied from leader, but the leader is put on line 79 and then 'maps' is used to read the reference count below - so a use after put, with the put of maps happening within thread__put.
Fixed by reversing the order of puts so that the leader is put last.
- Also several fixes were made to places where reference counts were not being held.
- Make this one of the tests in 'make -C tools/perf build-test' to regularly build test it and to make sure no direct access to the reference counted structs are made, doing that via accessors to check the validity of the struct pointer.
ARM64:
- Fix 'perf report' segfault when filtering coresight traces by sparse lists of CPUs.
- Add support for 'simd' as a sort field for 'perf report', to show ARM's NEON SIMD's predicate flags: "partial" and "empty".
arm64 vendor events:
- Add N1 metrics.
Intel vendor events:
- Add graniterapids, grandridge and sierraforrest events.
- Refresh events for: alderlake, aldernaken, broadwell, broadwellde, broadwellx, cascadelakx, haswell, haswellx, icelake, icelakex, jaketown, meteorlake, knightslanding, sandybridge, sapphirerapids, silvermont, skylake, tigerlake and westmereep-dp
- Refresh metrics for alderlake-n, broadwell, broadwellde, broadwellx, haswell, haswellx, icelakex, ivybridge, ivytown and skylakex.
perf stat:
- Implement --topdown using JSON metrics.
- Add TopdownL1 JSON metric as a default if present, but disable it for now for some Intel hybrid architectures, a series of patches addressing this is being reviewed and will be submitted for v6.5.
- Use metrics for --smi-cost.
- Update topdown documentation.
Vendor events (JSON) infrastructure:
- Add support for computing and printing metric threshold values. For instance, here is one found in thesapphirerapids json file:
{ "BriefDescription": "Percentage of cycles spent in System Management Interrupts.", "MetricExpr": "((msr@aperf@ - cycles) / msr@aperf@ if msr@smi@ > 0 else 0)", "MetricGroup": "smi", "MetricName": "smi_cycles", "MetricThreshold": "smi_cycles > 0.1", "ScaleUnit": "100%" },
- Test parsing metric thresholds with the fake PMU in 'perf test pmu-events'.
- Support for printing metric thresholds in 'perf list'.
- Add --metric-no-threshold option to 'perf stat'.
- Add rand (reverse and) and has_pmem (optane memory) support to metrics.
- Sort list of input files to avoid depending on the order from readdir() helping in obtaining reproducible builds.
S/390:
- Add common metrics: - CPI (cycles per instruction), prbstate (ratio of instructions executed in problem state compared to total number of instructions), l1mp (Level one instruction and data cache misses per 100 instructions).
- Add cache metrics for z13, z14, z15 and z16.
- Add metric for TLB and cache.
ARM:
- Add raw decoding for SPE (Statistical Profiling Extension) v1.3 MTE (Memory Tagging Extension) and MOPS (Memory Operations) load/store.
Intel PT hardware tracing:
- Add event type names UINTR (User interrupt delivered) and UIRET (Exiting from user interrupt routine), documented in table 32-50 "CFE Packet Type and Vector Fields Details" in the Intel Processor Trace chapter of The Intel SDM Volume 3 version 078.
- Add support for new branch instructions ERETS and ERETU.
- Fix CYC timestamps after standalone CBR
ARM CoreSight hardware tracing:
- Allow user to override timestamp and contextid settings.
- Fix segfault in dso lookup.
- Fix timeless decode mode detection.
- Add separate decode paths for timeless and per-thread modes.
auxtrace:
- Fix address filter entire kernel size.
Miscellaneous:
- Fix use-after-free and unaligned bugs in the PLT handling routines.
- Use zfree() to reduce chances of use after free.
- Add missing 0x prefix for addresses printed in hexadecimal in 'perf probe'.
- Suppress massive unsupported target platform errors in the unwind code.
- Fix return incorrect build_id size in elf_read_build_id().
- Fix 'perf scripts intel-pt-events.py' IPC output for Python 2 .
- Add missing new parameter in kfree_skb tracepoint to the python scripts using it.
- Add 'perf bench syscall fork' benchmark.
- Add support for printing PERF_MEM_LVLNUM_UNC (Uncached access) in 'perf mem'.
- Fix wrong size expectation for perf test 'Setup struct perf_event_attr' caused by the patch adding perf_event_attr::config3.
- Fix some spelling mistakes"
* tag 'perf-tools-for-v6.4-3-2023-05-06' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/acme/linux: (365 commits) Revert "perf build: Make BUILD_BPF_SKEL default, rename to NO_BPF_SKEL" Revert "perf build: Warn for BPF skeletons if endian mismatches" perf metrics: Fix SEGV with --for-each-cgroup perf bpf skels: Stop using vmlinux.h generated from BTF, use subset of used structs + CO-RE perf stat: Separate bperf from bpf_profiler perf test record+probe_libc_inet_pton: Fix call chain match on x86_64 perf test record+probe_libc_inet_pton: Fix call chain match on s390 perf tracepoint: Fix memory leak in is_valid_tracepoint() perf cs-etm: Add fix for coresight trace for any range of CPUs perf build: Fix unescaped # in perf build-test perf unwind: Suppress massive unsupported target platform errors perf script: Add new parameter in kfree_skb tracepoint to the python scripts using it perf script: Print raw ip instead of binary offset for callchain perf symbols: Fix return incorrect build_id size in elf_read_build_id() perf list: Modify the warning message about scandirat(3) perf list: Fix memory leaks in print_tracepoint_events() perf lock contention: Rework offset calculation with BPF CO-RE perf lock contention: Fix struct rq lock access perf stat: Disable TopdownL1 on hybrid perf stat: Avoid SEGV on counter->name ...
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